[NTLK] Y2k25 bug fix - What is a casual user to do?

[barryrosenfeld at comcast.net]

Rob –

                Thanks very much to you and Ron and the others for all this.  The Lender Card method seems simplest and most doable.  I assume that by “Linear Flash Cards” he is referring to the standard PCMCIA cards that we all use for extra memory on our Newtons.  Is that correct?  Any idea how much memory the card would need for this purpose?  Thanks again to all!  --Barry 

 

Barry Rosenfeld

917-856-1458

barryrosenfeld at comcast.net

 

From: robmoody at fundamental-learning.com <robmoody at fundamental-learning.com> 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 7:36 PM
To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net; barryrosenfeld at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Y2k25 bug fix - What is a casual user to do?

 

Hi Barry,

 

In my somewhat  similar context and in the great-natured spirit of the advice I’ve been given here, I refer you to a response from Ron (hope he won’t mind):

 

Most Newton users will use a serial cable and the appropriate connection utility. This is probably the easiest method and only requires the purchase of a compatible serial cable. 

Some other non-conventional methods that you might also consider:

A) The download and "Put Away" method. This is how I do most of the installs on my Newton. A Newton can connect to, view folders on, and download files from, just about any web server. You can also use email to send .pkg files to yourself, as attachments. However, this method requires that your Newton has already gone through the complex setup process to become a wired or wireless NIE enabled device.

B) The Lender Card method. In the past, I created Lender Cards and mailed them out. Unfortunately, I no longer have any spare Linear Flash Cards in my collection. If you have a spare Flash Card, you could mail it to me (or another user) and the update could be mailed back to you, I ready to "Put Away" from the InBox. 

C) The Beaming Circle method. Kind of like a sewing circle only you're trading updates instead of stitches. Schedule a meet up with other Newton users and then one user can beam the update, from their OutBox to your InBox, from one Newton user to another. And then, can you imagine, those two users can beam the update to two more Newton users. And so on, and so on, exponentially. Until the whole world is updated.

Ron

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And the good Doctor Clu provided a link (hope he won’t mind me passing on his ‘prescription’):





https://40hz.org/Pages/newton/patches/patch712000/





There was a time when I was tinkering away, installing packages and even writing resource books on a 2000 with keyboard (a story that might bore most people…) and this was one website among many that was helpful:





http://applenewton.co.uk/2019/04/30/best-usb-to-rs232-cable-for-ncx-and-newtons/

 

Hmm…now that I’ve been forced to ‘rescue’ my Newts, I think that Green Glow is starting to come over me once again!













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On 10 Jan 2025, at 21:25, barryrosenfeld--- via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net <mailto:newtontalk at newtontalk.net> > wrote:

All -

               As a long time lurker on this list who has kept a couple of
Newtons going for all of these years, but who hasn't connected either Newton
to another computer probably since I installed the Y2k10 fix those many
years ago, practically speaking, what do I need, and what do I need to do to
install the new fix?  I understand that I need to acquire the new patch.
But what cable and dongle(s) do I need to connect an MP2100 to a modern PC?
Is that even possible? And what software?  Does NCU work on a modern PC?  I
remember in the past having to run multiple versions of slowdown.exe so that
the PC could talk to the Newton.  But that was many generations of computers
ago.  I don't have a Mac.  How can I install this patch?  Thanks all for
keeping the green glow alive all these years!  --Barry Rosenfeld





Barry Rosenfeld

917-856-1458

barryrosenfeld at comcast.net <mailto:barryrosenfeld at comcast.net> 



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