[NTLK] I have a question about the way the eMate handles

Forrest newton_phoenix at mindspring.com
Thu Apr 1 03:06:39 PDT 2021

I have no problem re-celling it; Frank says it’s easier than a Newton battery pack, and having done a few of those and after reading his instructions, so far I would tend to agree.

I’d like to squeeze as much as I can out of this existing one before I destroy it by tearing it down to rebuild it.


Sent from my T-Mobile iPhone 11

> On Apr 1, 2021, at 2:59 AM, Forrest <newton_phoenix at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Hi Sonny,
> Thanks for the response. Yes I tried freezing it, this time it did not work, but it has in the past.
> The eMate is much the same as a MessagePad—but yet, different in certain ways. I did not realize that would be the case.
> Mahalo,
> Forrest
> Sent from my T-Mobile iPhone 11
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Sonny Hung <sonnyhung at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Forrest,
>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 7:31 PM Forrest Buffenmyer <
>>> newton_phoenix at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> I have a question about the way the eMate handles its battery charging
>>> task, vs. the way the Newton does.
>> I'm not sure nor am I technically inclined or knowledgeable enough on these
>> detail and will refer them for Frank to be clarified.
>> Briefly--I recently purchased a like-new eMate off eBay. Not a mark on it;
>>> display intact with no marks or scratches. The seller had no way to power
>>> it up, so it was sold as-is.
>> I've had some Old  New Stock eMate 300 battery packs in my possession. In
>> discussion with Frank, we discussed the possibilities of resuscitating them
>> for use. Many if not most of them were in the state of Deep Toast as you
>> mentioned below.
>> Without the Y2K patch on my eMate 300, I began inserting them one at a time
>> (first test batch of 8) to try charging them and see if they would first
>> charge at all, and if they did how long of a run time they would last using
>> Frank's battery log program.
>> All I can say is that I had one maybe two of them come back to life. This
>> is no guarantee that your success percentage will be high, but it says your
>> results are not impossible.
>> When I came back to it 3 days ago, it was fully discharged, so I connected
>>> the eMate to power to recharge it. But again, it would not accept or hold a
>>> charge. The eMate said it was "deepToast" and that I should replace it, for
>>> those reasons.
>> Deep Toast, base on my discussion with Frank at times might be possible to
>> recover the battery if your try to condition the pack. I have somewhere in
>> my stash of Newton Third-Party Accessories a multi-pack charging station
>> for MP2000/2100 packs. However, I did at one time did think to modify it to
>> condition eMate300 packs. However, I never begin the process and I'm at
>> this time still trying to locate it in my storage stash.
>> One other discussion with Frank about the eMate300 packs was that we could
>> freeze the packs and then try charging them to see if they hold a charge.
>> If I'm wrong Frank please correct me as these memories maybe a bit fuzzy as
>> I age. This if I recall also applies to the MP2000/2100 packs too. YMMV but
>> you might be able to resuscitate a pack, but the usage/hours might not be
>> stable or consistent. I believe we used Frank's Battery Log app to test
>> howling packs that were resuscitated lasted. I saved a few logs back then
>> on oneeMate300. No idea where it is at this time.
>> So now what happens? Do I tear down and rebuild what could be a
>>> still-functioning battery pack...or do I wait until the issue shows up
>>> again?
>> You could try to bring it back to life or rebuild it. I can't give you the
>> best choice on this. The cells are old and may not be stable. Re-celling a
>> pack if done correctly is a better option if you can do it or pay for it.
>>> Mahalo,
>>> Forrest
>>> Sent from my eMate 300
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