[NTLK] Einstein, last call

[DoctorClu]

Truthfully, hit me like a ton of bricks.   Like you, a day later, I 
decided to go ahead with my Newton plans and tinkering regarding 
Einstein.  (See LaundryMat video earlier in this mailing list.). The 
reason I moved forward I'll say as follows:

Nothing against Newton-Re, I think what is being discovered there with 
Ai tools has been fascinating.  Hopefully we'll learn ways for NewtonOS 
to be better and stronger from it.  (Maybe Newton-RE and Einstein can 
work together)?

As I told Matthias, Einstein accomplishes what I need with Newton at 
this time with there being solid Mac versions and the handling of 
storage devices and the notes and other information that I'm personally 
organizing thanks to what Einstein can do.  And to a more limited degree 
I have a Newton on my android devices.

So I know at least for me it still has a place, either in its current 
form, or with further revision.


Greg / Doc Clu



  [NTLK] Einstein, last call

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Am I the only one who feels a bittersweet sadness about this? I've sat
on this feeling for a day and a half now, and it's not going away, so
I'm going to have to inflict it on y'all.

The Einstein project has been on two-decade-long[1] journey, that
started by proving that this community could take some control and
decide what the future was of this platform that we love.  And very
quickly, it became one of the cornerstones of this community: people
gathered around, watching the progress, asking questions, making
suggestions, offering encouragement and making any contributions that
they could.  We celebrated every milestone and each piece of hard-won
progress made by analyzing, understanding, documenting, and
implementing.  There may only be a handful of contributors listed[2],
but this entire community has always proudly carried Einstein on its
shoulders.

To me, something feels wrong about it coming to such an end, deprecated
due to the existence of a machine-coded "replacement". Maybe it's
because, as a software developer and programmer, I enjoy and appreciate
the craft so much, and now there's just nothing to do.  I should be
happy - "Hooray, everything works now like we planned", but I'm not.  Is
it just the fallacy of sunken cost[3] irrationally yelling in my head?

I'm not sure why, but it feels like there's a bit less to look forward to.

If I'm the only one feeling this way, I'll just walk backwards back into
my hedge and deal with it.  But I'm curious, and I suspect I might not
be the only one.

-V

[1]
https://web.archive.org/web/20040908090829/www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,64834,00.html

[2]https://github.com/pguyot/Einstein/graphs/contributors?all=1

[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost

On 2026-10-21 11:04, Matthias Melcher wrote:
>/There were two or three more features planed for Einstein. However with 
Daniel's newton-re, there is really no longer a need for the existence 
of Einstein. newton-re can now run NewtonOS at full speed without 
emulation and without a ROM. With a matching user interface, it will be 
far superior to Einstein, performance wise at the least. /