[NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114 (SonyTEL)
Fabrice Braun
f at fabricebraun.de
Sun Jul 20 11:23:11 PDT 2025
Thanks for your answers. Sorry, I’m a bit confused here: Should I ignore the error message? I suppose the eMate would not show the error message if there wasn’t a problem?
Best
Fabrice
PS: I don’t have a voltmeter here, will get one in the next days.
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> 5. Re: Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114 (SonyTEL)
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>> On Jul 19, 2025, at 1:38 PM, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk> wrote:
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> Ooh! I will certainly try to attend, but can?t say for sure ... Sunday is our family dinner day.
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> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:22:54 +0100
> From: Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114
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>> On 19 Jul 2025, at 14:33, Fabrice Braun <f at fabricebraun.de> wrote:
>>
>> As it was recommended in this list, I bought a (used) Sony SCPH-114 power adapter (European/German version) for my eMate.
>>
>> But now, when I start my eMate I get this error message:
>>
>> ?POWER The adapter is providing too much power. The battery cannot be charged with this adapter.?
>>
>> Does anyone know, what?s wrong? The orange light on the meat is on.
>>
>> Fabrice
>
>
> Hi Fabrice!
>
> I would check if that Sony adapter does not exceed 7.5V (check with any multimeter). If the voltage is even more higher than 7.5V, you have your problem.
>
> The original Apple power adapter for Newton has 7.5V, 1.2A, so the voltage is fine, and the 2A on your Sony shouldn?t be a problem. The only problem (I guess) may be voltage higher than 7.5V.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Pawel Piotrowski
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> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:37:28 +0100
> From: Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Help! Installed Minibar and now can?t use my
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> Hi Mark,
>
> Did you try DashBoard? If not, try it. You will love it :)
>
> Cheers,
> Pawel
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>> On 16 Jul 2025, at 04:20, mark audacity romberg <mark.romberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Minibar seems pretty cool, but without TapBar installed, it makes the machine unusable?since there?s no Extras button.
>>
>> Is there a way to back out of this without wiping the machine? Since I can?t get to Extras, I can?t delete the icon?
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> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 15:41:14 +0200
> From: SonyTEL <sonytel at free.fr>
> To: NewtonTalk List <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114
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>
> There is no error...
>
> The voltage is 7.5V.
> The current CAN deliver up to 2A.
>
> If the Newton requires 0.5A, for example, it will only consume 0.5A...
> If the Newton requires 1.2A, for example, it will only consume 1.2A...
>
> As this Sony power supply CAN deliver up to 2A, it will generate less heat in all cases! And as a result, it will last longer...
>
> Nothing but advantages!!! Positive ones ;-)
>
> BrUnO
>
>
>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 15:22, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk> a ?crit :
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 19 Jul 2025, at 14:33, Fabrice Braun <f at fabricebraun.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> As it was recommended in this list, I bought a (used) Sony SCPH-114 power adapter (European/German version) for my eMate.
>>>
>>> But now, when I start my eMate I get this error message:
>>>
>>> ?POWER The adapter is providing too much power. The battery cannot be charged with this adapter.?
>>>
>>> Does anyone know, what?s wrong? The orange light on the meat is on.
>>>
>>> Fabrice
>>
>>
>> Hi Fabrice!
>>
>> I would check if that Sony adapter does not exceed 7.5V (check with any multimeter). If the voltage is even more higher than 7.5V, you have your problem.
>>
>> The original Apple power adapter for Newton has 7.5V, 1.2A, so the voltage is fine, and the 2A on your Sony shouldn?t be a problem. The only problem (I guess) may be voltage higher than 7.5V.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Pawel Piotrowski
>>
>> Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/>
>>
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>> NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 <http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680/> (powered by Raspberry Pi)
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 15:25:38 +0100
> From: Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk>
> To: NewtonTalk Mailin List <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>, SonyTEL
> <sonytel at free.fr>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114
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> Yes, can be a problem if power adapter deliver higher voltage than 7.5V. Many power adapters do that and they deliver more than nominal without any load. And that what Newton does not like. And that can even break the Newton.
>
> The fact that the nameplate shows 7.5V does not guarantee that the multimeter will not show a higher voltage when you do not connect the power supply to any power receiver.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Pawel
>
>> On 20 Jul 2025, at 14:41, SonyTEL via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There is no error...
>>
>> The voltage is 7.5V.
>> The current CAN deliver up to 2A.
>>
>> If the Newton requires 0.5A, for example, it will only consume 0.5A...
>> If the Newton requires 1.2A, for example, it will only consume 1.2A...
>>
>> As this Sony power supply CAN deliver up to 2A, it will generate less heat in all cases! And as a result, it will last longer...
>>
>> Nothing but advantages!!! Positive ones ;-)
>>
>> BrUnO
>>
>>
>>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 15:22, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk <mailto:newton at indigi.co.uk>> a ?crit :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 19 Jul 2025, at 14:33, Fabrice Braun <f at fabricebraun.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As it was recommended in this list, I bought a (used) Sony SCPH-114 power adapter (European/German version) for my eMate.
>>>>
>>>> But now, when I start my eMate I get this error message:
>>>>
>>>> ?POWER The adapter is providing too much power. The battery cannot be charged with this adapter.?
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know, what?s wrong? The orange light on the meat is on.
>>>>
>>>> Fabrice
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Fabrice!
>>>
>>> I would check if that Sony adapter does not exceed 7.5V (check with any multimeter). If the voltage is even more higher than 7.5V, you have your problem.
>>>
>>> The original Apple power adapter for Newton has 7.5V, 1.2A, so the voltage is fine, and the 2A on your Sony shouldn?t be a problem. The only problem (I guess) may be voltage higher than 7.5V.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Pawel Piotrowski
>>>
>>> Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/> <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/>
>>>
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>>> NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 <http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680/> <http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680/> (powered by Raspberry Pi)
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> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:40:03 -0400
> From: Morgan Aldridge <morgant at makkintosshu.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net, Grant Hutchinson <splorp at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Users Meeting Online - July 2025
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> On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 17:03 Grant Hutchinson via NewtonTalk <
> newtontalk at newtontalk.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Jul 19, 2025, at 1:38 PM, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is very last minute, but maybe someone want to join and chat about
>> our Newtons :)
>>>
>>> If you are interested in current best Newton project - NewtCOM Dongle -
>> that will be a great opportunity to chat with Matthias, as he will be there
>> :)
>>
>> Ooh! I will certainly try to attend, but can?t say for sure ... Sunday is
>> our family dinner day.
>
>
> Unfortunately, it looks like I will not be able to attend today, but I'm
> very much looking forward to Matthias's NewtCOM dongle project.
>
> I would love to attend more of the meetups, if they happen more frequently.
> No pressure though, I know we're all busy.
>
> Morgan
>
> P.S. Grant, have a great family dinner day!
>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:12:18 +0200
> From: SonyTEL <sonytel at free.fr>
> To: NewtonTalk List <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>, Pawel Piotrowski
> <newton at indigi.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114
> Message-ID: <AD2D4E6A-5211-4FC9-BD82-152A640B7F64 at free.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
> A voltage measurement (7.5V) cannot be taken when the device is empty...
> But when it is connected to the device, i.e. the Newton ;-)
>
> In my opinion, Sony had no intention of blowing up its PlayStation One consoles...
>
> BrUnO
>
>
>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 16:25, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk> a ?crit :
>>
>> Yes, can be a problem if power adapter deliver higher voltage than 7.5V. Many power adapters do that and they deliver more than nominal without any load. And that what Newton does not like. And that can even break the Newton.
>>
>> The fact that the nameplate shows 7.5V does not guarantee that the multimeter will not show a higher voltage when you do not connect the power supply to any power receiver.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pawel
>>
>>> On 20 Jul 2025, at 14:41, SonyTEL via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no error...
>>>
>>> The voltage is 7.5V.
>>> The current CAN deliver up to 2A.
>>>
>>> If the Newton requires 0.5A, for example, it will only consume 0.5A...
>>> If the Newton requires 1.2A, for example, it will only consume 1.2A...
>>>
>>> As this Sony power supply CAN deliver up to 2A, it will generate less heat in all cases! And as a result, it will last longer...
>>>
>>> Nothing but advantages!!! Positive ones ;-)
>>>
>>> BrUnO
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 15:22, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk <mailto:newton at indigi.co.uk>> a ?crit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Jul 2025, at 14:33, Fabrice Braun <f at fabricebraun.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As it was recommended in this list, I bought a (used) Sony SCPH-114 power adapter (European/German version) for my eMate.
>>>>>
>>>>> But now, when I start my eMate I get this error message:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?POWER The adapter is providing too much power. The battery cannot be charged with this adapter.?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know, what?s wrong? The orange light on the meat is on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fabrice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Fabrice!
>>>>
>>>> I would check if that Sony adapter does not exceed 7.5V (check with any multimeter). If the voltage is even more higher than 7.5V, you have your problem.
>>>>
>>>> The original Apple power adapter for Newton has 7.5V, 1.2A, so the voltage is fine, and the 2A on your Sony shouldn?t be a problem. The only problem (I guess) may be voltage higher than 7.5V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Pawel Piotrowski
>>>>
>>>> Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/> <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/>
>>>>
>>>> NPDS Server: http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079 <http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079/> (powered by Newton 2100)
>>>> NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 <http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680/> <http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680/> (powered by Raspberry Pi)
>>>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 09:43:41 -0700
> From: Dennis Swaney <romad at mac.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114
> Message-ID: <9E0ED4BA-0231-45E8-A6A1-626E80949303 at mac.com>
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> I just measured my Sony SCPH-113 using an analog Micronta multimeter with a fresh battery installed. The reading was on the high edge of the 7.5 vdc tick mark, but way less than a 7.6 vdc reading would have been.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dennis B. Swaney
>
> Cogito Ergo Mac
>
>
>
>
>> On Jul 20, 2025, at 07:25, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, can be a problem if power adapter deliver higher voltage than 7.5V. Many power adapters do that and they deliver more than nominal without any load. And that what Newton does not like. And that can even break the Newton.
>>
>> The fact that the nameplate shows 7.5V does not guarantee that the multimeter will not show a higher voltage when you do not connect the power supply to any power receiver.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pawel
>>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:09:13 -0400
> From: Morgan Aldridge <morgant at makkintosshu.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net, SonyTEL <sonytel at free.fr>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114
> Message-ID:
> <CABg33QPoHi4Xk9ZJNvBcTVnHttgW==NmqDat9O8a9kwwSYNOVg at mail.gmail.com>
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> There is a well-documented history regarding the fragility of the
> MessagePad & eMate hardware having _very_ strict power requirements, as
> Pawel has described. There are some details in the Newton FAQ, including
> your new suggestion of the Sony adapters:
>
> <https://newtonfaq.com/newton-faq-hardware.html#IIB7>
>
> Pawel is correct that anything more than 7.5V is extremely risky for the
> Newton power circuitry and because many devices are more forgiving with
> fluctuations, third party adapters are prone ? if not likely ? to
> temporarily spike above 7.5V.
>
> For some of the technical details, see the "Power Adapter Designer's
> Guide" which is archived on UNNA:
>
> <http://www.unna.org/unna/apple/documentation/n2platform/n2-padg.pdf>
>
> Morgan
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 12:12 SonyTEL via NewtonTalk <
> newtontalk at newtontalk.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> A voltage measurement (7.5V) cannot be taken when the device is empty...
>> But when it is connected to the device, i.e. the Newton ;-)
>>
>> In my opinion, Sony had no intention of blowing up its PlayStation One
>> consoles...
>>
>> BrUnO
>>
>>
>>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 16:25, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk> a
>> ?crit :
>>>
>>> Yes, can be a problem if power adapter deliver higher voltage than 7.5V.
>> Many power adapters do that and they deliver more than nominal without any
>> load. And that what Newton does not like. And that can even break the
>> Newton.
>>>
>>> The fact that the nameplate shows 7.5V does not guarantee that the
>> multimeter will not show a higher voltage when you do not connect the power
>> supply to any power receiver.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pawel
>>>
>>>> On 20 Jul 2025, at 14:41, SonyTEL via NewtonTalk <
>> newtontalk at newtontalk.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no error...
>>>>
>>>> The voltage is 7.5V.
>>>> The current CAN deliver up to 2A.
>>>>
>>>> If the Newton requires 0.5A, for example, it will only consume 0.5A...
>>>> If the Newton requires 1.2A, for example, it will only consume 1.2A...
>>>>
>>>> As this Sony power supply CAN deliver up to 2A, it will generate less
>> heat in all cases! And as a result, it will last longer...
>>>>
>>>> Nothing but advantages!!! Positive ones ;-)
>>>>
>>>> BrUnO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 15:22, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk
>> <mailto:newton at indigi.co.uk>> a ?crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2025, at 14:33, Fabrice Braun <f at fabricebraun.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As it was recommended in this list, I bought a (used) Sony SCPH-114
>> power adapter (European/German version) for my eMate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But now, when I start my eMate I get this error message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?POWER The adapter is providing too much power. The battery cannot be
>> charged with this adapter.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know, what?s wrong? The orange light on the meat is on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabrice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Fabrice!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would check if that Sony adapter does not exceed 7.5V (check with
>> any multimeter). If the voltage is even more higher than 7.5V, you have
>> your problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> The original Apple power adapter for Newton has 7.5V, 1.2A, so the
>> voltage is fine, and the 2A on your Sony shouldn?t be a problem. The only
>> problem (I guess) may be voltage higher than 7.5V.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Pawel Piotrowski
>>>>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 19:27:02 +0200
> From: SonyTEL <sonytel at free.fr>
> To: Morgan Aldridge <morgant at makkintosshu.com>
> Cc: NewtonTalk List <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Error with Sony power adapter SCP-114
> Message-ID: <CAFDEF1F-3CC3-4DE6-9A6F-6F4D99A3F491 at free.fr>
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>
> On consumer equipment, as long as you don't exceed 5%, everything is fine ?
> 7.5V + 5% = 7.87V
> 7.5% - 5% = 7.12V
> It's traditional math ;-)
>
> If the input is 7.5V, there is a regulator in the Newton...
> Like all electronic devices.
>
> BrUnO
>
>
>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 19:09, Morgan Aldridge <morgant at makkintosshu.com> a ?crit :
>>
>> There is a well-documented history regarding the fragility of the MessagePad & eMate hardware having _very_ strict power requirements, as Pawel has described. There are some details in the Newton FAQ, including your new suggestion of the Sony adapters:
>>
>> <https://newtonfaq.com/newton-faq-hardware.html#IIB7>
>>
>> Pawel is correct that anything more than 7.5V is extremely risky for the Newton power circuitry and because many devices are more forgiving with fluctuations, third party adapters are prone ? if not likely ? to temporarily spike above 7.5V.
>>
>> For some of the technical details, see the "Power Adapter Designer's Guide" which is archived on UNNA:
>>
>> <http://www.unna.org/unna/apple/documentation/n2platform/n2-padg.pdf>
>>
>> Morgan
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 12:12 SonyTEL via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net <mailto:newtontalk at newtontalk.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A voltage measurement (7.5V) cannot be taken when the device is empty...
>>> But when it is connected to the device, i.e. the Newton ;-)
>>>
>>> In my opinion, Sony had no intention of blowing up its PlayStation One consoles...
>>>
>>> BrUnO
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 16:25, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk <mailto:newton at indigi.co.uk>> a ?crit :
>>>>
>>>> Yes, can be a problem if power adapter deliver higher voltage than 7.5V. Many power adapters do that and they deliver more than nominal without any load. And that what Newton does not like. And that can even break the Newton.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that the nameplate shows 7.5V does not guarantee that the multimeter will not show a higher voltage when you do not connect the power supply to any power receiver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Pawel
>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Jul 2025, at 14:41, SonyTEL via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net <mailto:newtontalk at newtontalk.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no error...
>>>>>
>>>>> The voltage is 7.5V.
>>>>> The current CAN deliver up to 2A.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Newton requires 0.5A, for example, it will only consume 0.5A...
>>>>> If the Newton requires 1.2A, for example, it will only consume 1.2A...
>>>>>
>>>>> As this Sony power supply CAN deliver up to 2A, it will generate less heat in all cases! And as a result, it will last longer...
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing but advantages!!! Positive ones ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> BrUnO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 20 juil. 2025 ? 15:22, Pawel Piotrowski <newton at indigi.co.uk <mailto:newton at indigi.co.uk> <mailto:newton at indigi.co.uk <mailto:newton at indigi.co.uk>>> a ?crit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2025, at 14:33, Fabrice Braun <f at fabricebraun.de <mailto:f at fabricebraun.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As it was recommended in this list, I bought a (used) Sony SCPH-114 power adapter (European/German version) for my eMate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But now, when I start my eMate I get this error message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?POWER The adapter is providing too much power. The battery cannot be charged with this adapter.?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know, what?s wrong? The orange light on the meat is on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fabrice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Fabrice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would check if that Sony adapter does not exceed 7.5V (check with any multimeter). If the voltage is even more higher than 7.5V, you have your problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original Apple power adapter for Newton has 7.5V, 1.2A, so the voltage is fine, and the 2A on your Sony shouldn?t be a problem. The only problem (I guess) may be voltage higher than 7.5V.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Pawel Piotrowski
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/> <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/> <http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NPDS Server: http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079 <http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079/> <http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079/> (powered by Newton 2100)
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>>>>>>
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