[NTLK] Did I miss the memo? Trying things out.

[Eckhart Köppen]

That’s when the NewtonOS stuff stops working. It’s a bit like the original Y2k problem, but I suspect there’s not going to be a clean fix. Maybe Apple will has release the NewtonOS sources by then :)

Regarding the current issue, I think it is actually the Y2010 bug, the safe time window has come to an end: I set the fixed start date in the 711000 patch to Jan 1st 2008. Jan 4th 2025 (or to be more precise, 536870911 seconds later) things start to go wrong. In typical programmer fashion, I got this off by one, it wasn’t 2026 when the new patch is needed, but 2025.

I need to put the tools together to update the patch to pick a new safe start date (and set a reminder 17 years from that date). Hopefully that will do the trick, keeping fingers crossed it’s not a separate problem.

Eckhart

> On 6. Jan 2025, at 18.33, Doctor Clu via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net> wrote:
> 
> So ... what joy awaits in 2040?
> 
> 
> On 1/6/25 10:04 AM, Eckhart Köppen wrote:
>> Looks like a clean overflow, the difference is awfully close to 1073741823 seconds which is 0x40000000 in hex. That’s 30 bits, exactly what a NewtonScript integer can handle. If we’re lucky, this is again “just" a NewtonScript related issue. The NewtonOS problems start in 2040 :)
>> 
>> Eckhart
>> 
>>> On 6. Jan 2025, at 17.38, Doctor Clu via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Trying a few things out.
>>> 
>>> So we set it to 2025, it gives us 1990.
>>> 
>>> Set to 2026, it gives us 1991.
>>> 
>>> Set to 2057, it gives us 2022.
>>> 
>>> Consistent 35 year difference.  <---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2059... 2024.
>>> 
>>> 2060... 1991.  :)
>>> 
>>> 2125... 2022
>>> 
>>> 2127... 2024
>>> 
>>> 2128... 1991.  LOL
>>> 
>>> Newton currently really hates 2025.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> By the way, interesting story: earlier I said my Newton 2000 displayed a date of January 6, 2025, which it did.  Restarted Newton, which comes up to to 2008 by default.  I went to set the date which IN THE SETUP said January 6, 2025.  Set the time, which was wrong however, and then it set to December 28, 1990.
>>> 
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