[NTLK] eMate power up issues
Doctor Clu
drclu at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 3 06:14:52 PDT 2025
Thank you Frank for the following comments.
The below talking about the power button on the eMate keyboard:
On 4/2/25 10:02 AM, NewtonTalk via NewtonTalk wrote:
>> Why would the power button on the keyboard, or the lid power button, not
>> work when the rest of the keyboard is working AND the power button works for powering down the Newton?
>
> Unless Apple's latest operating version is installed, eMates have a tendency
> to do weird things power-wise. Especially when trying to power them up after
> they have been stored without or with a fully discharged battery. In these
> cases they often won't power up unless the reset button is pressed.
> I have the latest I believe 732000 edition where it updates the eMate
to operate beyond 2024 and still use the clock. I have two eMates with
this upgrade, one the power button on the keyboard works and the other
it does not.
It is a valid speculation, but with the above I doubt the upgrade is
what is causing the issue.
> I haven't been following this discussion closely, but if you are trying to
> use a third party battery holder in the eMate, you might want to reconsider.
> I've never found a manufacturer willing to guarantee in writing that their
> battery holders will withstand the 1,5 Amps that the original power supply
> charges the batteries with. I've tried many holders over the last couple of
> years, and some of them started melting in no time because the contacts were
> very poor and hence getting very hot. In the Newtons this only works because
> they are using very strong springs that press the contacts on the board to
> those of the battery pack.
>
> Frank
Thanks for the warning, I will keep an eye out for that.
The original battery holder I saw where this was done was a all metal
battery tray.
The tray I used was found on this ebay auction:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404687023197?var=674685232369
It so far wired up fine, and worked on both eMates I have. Currently in
the eMate where the power button on the keyboard is working.
Used 1.5 v "Bump" rechargable batteries which held a charge for quite a
while, but all the while the voltage indicator showed 100% till the very
end, the indicator showed about 91% and then the batteries collectively
were too low and the eMate was unable to power up till I recharged the
batteries.
Have since heard the Bump batteries will drop in power and then return
with power. Inconsistent. Recently heard EBL 1.5V batteries are quite
consistent, so I will try those next.
While the indicator in Avi's backdrop shows the batteries to be
"charging" while under a power adaptor, not sure I trust that. So far
have been charging the batteries outside of the eMate.
Thanks for the input Frank!
Greg / Doc Clu
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