From newton at indigi.co.uk Wed Dec 1 15:10:00 2021 From: newton at indigi.co.uk (Pawel Piotrowski) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 23:10:00 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] Worldwide Online Newton Conference 2021 - UPDATE #4 In-Reply-To: <1D71EC10-1578-47F1-B22D-F5E1CBC84F55@indigi.co.uk> References: <1D71EC10-1578-47F1-B22D-F5E1CBC84F55@indigi.co.uk> Message-ID: <44A2F4AF-92FB-4598-9535-EC8E222E4068@indigi.co.uk> Hello Newtonians! I should do this a weeks ago, but this year is so busy? OK, people voted and it seems that our Conference will take place 28-29 December 2021. I?ve sent a few emails to people who previously declared that they are happy to prepare presentations. Thank you so much, guys! If you didn?t get that email but you want to prepare your presentation, please contact me via email or on FB! This year we want to have more time for chatting and maybe some workshops. I?m preparing website with schedule, details etc. Stay tuned! If anyone have some ideas for additional activities - please contact me!!! Cheers, Pawel Original email about Conference below: > On 2 Oct 2021, at 17:41, Pawel Piotrowski wrote: > > Hello Newtonians! > > I do not like to give up so I will try again. > > After chat with Noah, we decided that we would try to organize a conference this year. The idea is one to use the time between Christmas and New Year. Many people take leave in this time, so we thought that the conference could go. > > The proposed terms are: two days between 27-29 December (16:00 UTC) or two days between 3-5 January (16:00 UTC). And now the question to you: Which of these days would be better? Here you have simple voting system: https://xoyondo.com/dp/AFGrSKbfXRqHp4H That should give us idea what time will be better. > If someone have better solution - as always, please write here, on NewtonTalk. > > PRESENTATIONS > > We have not contacted anyone on this moment. That's why we have an appeal: We need presenters! Any subject (however, related to Newton). It does not have to be a rocket science - every interesting topic will be welcome. For example, if you have something unique in your collection or would like to tell anything about Newton or about your adventure with Newton. > Personally, we count on people who had presentations last year. If you would like to prepare something this year, please contact us. However, I would like to invite others to prepare a presentation. I know there are many people here who have amazing specimens in their collections and have amazing stories to tell. It would be amazing if you could prepare even a very short presentation. > It would also be great to organize some practical workshops, software demonstrations, Q&A sessions, etc. If someone has an idea for something like that, please contact us or write here. > > CONFERENCE PLATFORM > > Zoom turned out to be a good platform last year, so and this year we want to apply it. All presentations and other sessions will be recorded and they will be placed on our YT channel. > > SUPPORT > > There are not many costs related to the preparation of the conference, but there are certain technical things to pay (web domain, hosting server, paid zoom account, etc.). If anyone wants to support our project, can do it to paying donation to the PayPal account (please add WONC 2021): indigi at icloud.com > One person has already paid a small amount some time ago, for which I thank you very much :) > > ANY OTHER IDEAS? > > If you have any other ideas, questions - write here or contact us directly using the email. > > > Best regards, > Pawel Piotrowski > > Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk > > NPDS Server: http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079 (powered by Newton 2100) > NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 (powered by Raspberry Pi) > > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/applenewtonfan/ > Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/AppleNewtonFan/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/AppleNewtonFan/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From lwb at mac.com Wed Dec 1 17:22:04 2021 From: lwb at mac.com (Laurence W Brown) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 17:22:04 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] Worldwide Online Newton Conference 2021 - UPDATE #3 In-Reply-To: <55DB6644-A185-43A1-B093-5102BFE2B98F@posteo.de> References: <55DB6644-A185-43A1-B093-5102BFE2B98F@posteo.de> Message-ID: <5B7C40F7-8F7C-4305-9618-838B1C874405@mac.com> love wi pi idea! -L.W. Brown via 8s+ > On Oct 2, 2021, at 09:59, Christoph wrote: > > ?Hi Pavel, > > Great! I could give a small talk how to use a raspberry pi for a wifi to ethernet bridge: > https://www.newtonhonk.de/tools/raspberry/ > > More noob like, but maybe interesting :) > > Cheers Christoph > > PS: Your welcome ;) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From lwb at mac.com Wed Dec 1 17:28:52 2021 From: lwb at mac.com (L.W. Brown) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 17:28:52 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] Worldwide Online Newton Conference 2021 - UPDATE #3 In-Reply-To: <5B7C40F7-8F7C-4305-9618-838B1C874405@mac.com> References: <55DB6644-A185-43A1-B093-5102BFE2B98F@posteo.de> <5B7C40F7-8F7C-4305-9618-838B1C874405@mac.com> Message-ID: <233181FD-3E57-4BB0-9346-92F69F756DA2@mac.com> me type betterer someday: ?love the pi idea" > On Dec 1, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Laurence W Brown via NewtonTalk wrote: > > love wi pi idea! > >> On Oct 2, 2021, at 09:59, Christoph wrote: >> >> Great! I could give a small talk how to use a raspberry pi for a wifi to ethernet bridge: >> https://www.newtonhonk.de/tools/raspberry/ From fstltna at yahoo.com Thu Dec 9 19:09:02 2021 From: fstltna at yahoo.com (Marisa Giancarla) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 03:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NTLK] Discord server for Newton References: <195347140.1379490.1639105742969.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <195347140.1379490.1639105742969@mail.yahoo.com> There is now a Newton Discord server and we would love to have you join us. You can join it by following this link: Join the Apple Newton Discord Server! | | | | | | | | | | | Join the Apple Newton Discord Server! Check out the Apple Newton community on Discord - hang out with 20 other members and enjoy free voice and text c... | | | __________________________________________________________________ --- Welcome to Newton City - Newton City - Newton Fan Site | | | | | | | | | | | Welcome to Newton City - Newton City Marisa Giancarla Portal for all things Newton! | | | From donald at donaldwilson.info Thu Dec 9 19:19:08 2021 From: donald at donaldwilson.info (Donald Wilson) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 22:19:08 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] Discord server for Newton In-Reply-To: <195347140.1379490.1639105742969@mail.yahoo.com> References: <195347140.1379490.1639105742969.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <195347140.1379490.1639105742969@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4887e64f-5993-01ad-a182-94a27a4feee1@donaldwilson.info> Your link didn't come thru... Pretty sure the list rips out HTML. You need to paste the link address in plain text ~Donald Wilson "There's more friendship poured out in a bottle of stout, than you'll find in statute or sermon" On 12/9/21 10:09 PM, Marisa Giancarla via NewtonTalk wrote: > There is now a Newton Discord server and we would love to have you join us. You can join it by following this link: Join the Apple Newton Discord Server! > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Join the Apple Newton Discord Server! > > Check out the Apple Newton community on Discord - hang out with 20 other members and enjoy free voice and text c... > | > > | > > | > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > --- Welcome to Newton City - Newton City - Newton Fan Site > > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Welcome to Newton City - Newton City > > Marisa Giancarla > > Portal for all things Newton! > | > > | > > | > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk > From fstltna at yahoo.com Thu Dec 9 22:11:02 2021 From: fstltna at yahoo.com (Marisa Giancarla) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 22:11:02 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] New Newton Discord server, try 2 References: <0789cfa6-02dd-e843-01a9-bd2c44de5f2b.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0789cfa6-02dd-e843-01a9-bd2c44de5f2b@yahoo.com> Lets try this again. The invite link is: https://discord.gg/PVEAJAQZMH Love to have you join us! Marisa From laurenbodyfelt at yahoo.com Wed Dec 15 08:20:32 2021 From: laurenbodyfelt at yahoo.com (Lauren) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:20:32 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] Discord server for Newton References: <4DF8955B-972B-4AF1-94F2-207ABF9E38D7.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF8955B-972B-4AF1-94F2-207ABF9E38D7@yahoo.com> I believe a Newton Discord server would be a great idea! I?m actually pretty active on Discord (largely due to the fact I have the mobile app), so that would certainly help me out with reconnecting to this awesome community centered around an awesome series of devices! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Donald Wilson wrote: > From drclu at swbell.net Wed Dec 15 08:38:49 2021 From: drclu at swbell.net (Doctor Clu) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:38:49 -0600 Subject: [NTLK] Discord server for Newton In-Reply-To: <4DF8955B-972B-4AF1-94F2-207ABF9E38D7@yahoo.com> References: <4DF8955B-972B-4AF1-94F2-207ABF9E38D7.ref@yahoo.com> <4DF8955B-972B-4AF1-94F2-207ABF9E38D7@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would love to Discord some Newton talk. Also, Discord app for the Newton? now that would be cool too. Doc Clu > On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Lauren via NewtonTalk wrote: > > I believe a Newton Discord server would be a great idea! I?m actually pretty active on Discord (largely due to the fact I have the mobile app), so that would certainly help me out with reconnecting to this awesome community centered around an awesome series of devices! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 9, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Donald Wilson wrote: >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From moosefuel at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 08:11:12 2021 From: moosefuel at gmail.com (Noah Leon) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 11:11:12 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging Message-ID: <5001B108-40D1-4F74-B389-6084DE058C56@gmail.com> My wife has installed a bunch of wireless charging pads around our house for her phone, AirPods, etc. It got me thinking, the technology seems pretty straightforward, I wonder if it would be possible to install a wireless charger in my Newt to take advantage? It already lasts forever on a charge, but if the level of difficulty wasn?t too bad I would definitely try it. Then again, don?t really want to fry my newt. noah From sylvain at pilet.net Mon Dec 20 08:32:39 2021 From: sylvain at pilet.net (Sylvain Pilet) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:32:39 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging In-Reply-To: <5001B108-40D1-4F74-B389-6084DE058C56@gmail.com> References: <5001B108-40D1-4F74-B389-6084DE058C56@gmail.com> Message-ID: <025DDC66-43B3-4C36-8983-301F744D0CEE@pilet.net> Noah, The various recharges by induction are based on a rather simple principle (to schematize), the charger and the object to be charged are equipped with a kind of coil, one transmitting, the other receiving, the first one transforms the current into a wave and the second one obviously does the opposite. And unless you can install a "receiver" system in the Newton...but where to find the space in the Newton?) Sylvain http://message-pad.net http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 [NPDS Tracker] From newton at indigi.co.uk Mon Dec 20 10:11:55 2021 From: newton at indigi.co.uk (Pawel Piotrowski) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:11:55 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] Worldwide Online Newton Conference 2021 - UPDATE #5 Message-ID: Hello Newtonians! In one week we will meet at WWNC Online 2021! :D I can?t wait! You can check the website to make sure you are updated with all news and changes. There is no Zoom links yet on the website. We want to avoid some scummers and other not nice people so the links will be published 2 days before the event (Sunday). Please read also additional information and news on the website. We still looking for some presenters. If you want to prepare some interesting presentation, please contact us (Pawel or Noah)! And - like always - if you have some questions or suggestions - please contact us here or directly via email or social media. Best regards, Pawel Piotrowski Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk NPDS Server: http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079 (powered by Newton 2100) NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 (powered by Raspberry Pi) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/applenewtonfan/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/AppleNewtonFan/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AppleNewtonFan/ From dan at dbdigitalweb.com Mon Dec 20 18:53:12 2021 From: dan at dbdigitalweb.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 21:53:12 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging In-Reply-To: <025DDC66-43B3-4C36-8983-301F744D0CEE@pilet.net> References: <5001B108-40D1-4F74-B389-6084DE058C56@gmail.com> <025DDC66-43B3-4C36-8983-301F744D0CEE@pilet.net> Message-ID: <61C14198.2010907@dbdigitalweb.com> The only suggestion I would have is taking a battery tray (or rather a 3D copy of one) and making it into a combination battery pack/wireless charging receiver. It would seem theoretically possible as long as you could come up with a battery system giving the same voltages, taking up less pace as to allow the the inclusion of the receiver. Way beyond my skill set though. -Dan On 12/20/2021 11:32 AM, Sylvain Pilet wrote: > Noah, > > The various recharges by induction are based on a rather simple principle (to schematize), the charger and the object to be charged are equipped with a kind of coil, one transmitting, the other receiving, the first one transforms the current into a wave and the second one obviously does the opposite. And unless you can install a "receiver" system in the Newton...but where to find the space in the Newton?) > > Sylvain From grant at splorp.com Tue Dec 21 14:22:09 2021 From: grant at splorp.com (Grant Hutchinson) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:22:09 -0700 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging In-Reply-To: <025DDC66-43B3-4C36-8983-301F744D0CEE@pilet.net> References: <5001B108-40D1-4F74-B389-6084DE058C56@gmail.com> <025DDC66-43B3-4C36-8983-301F744D0CEE@pilet.net> Message-ID: > I wonder if it would be possible to install a wireless charger in my Newt to take advantage? This a fascinating idea, Noah. Are the wireless chargers based on the Qi standard? > And unless you can install a "receiver" system in the Newton...but where to find the space in the Newton?) Here?s a wireless Qi receiver module that I found on Tindie. (There are a number of other solutions available, as well.) The board itself is pretty small and the optional receiving coils are flat. You might be able to built this into a standard battery sled. g. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Grant Hutchinson NewtonTalk List Dad & Interweb Custodian From moosefuel at gmail.com Wed Dec 22 13:35:42 2021 From: moosefuel at gmail.com (Noah Leon) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:35:42 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging (Grant Hutchinson) Message-ID: Yes, I think the chargers are based on the Qi standard if that is what the iPhone uses. I know Jake Bordens and maybe some others had done some work mapping out how the charging circuits work on the Newton, I wonder if there is enough room inside the case to put a coil directly inside the back? Most of these chargers are 5v circuits, and the Newton?s is 7v, so again I?m not sure if this would work. Creating a special battery pack might work ok but I think I would have to perhaps use smaller cells to make room for the chip and the coil, ad it would have to be a smaller coil. Then I don?t know much about how charging circuitry works so I am at a loss of how to direct the electricity to the right place. But if I had a little more info it might be a cool project for early next year. If I knew the best way to go about it I certainly would. Noah > On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:00 PM, newtontalk-request at newtontalk.net wrote: > > The board itself is pretty small and the optional receiving coils are flat. You might be able to built this into a standard battery sled. From dxh at woh.rr.com Wed Dec 22 14:55:50 2021 From: dxh at woh.rr.com (DXH) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 17:55:50 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging (Grant Hutchinson) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A617A21-86B4-4557-B3E7-D2411CE8DB1B@woh.rr.com> There are a number of issues regarding incorporating the circuitry in the battery tray. Batteries: The current battery arrangement uses 4X AA leaving little room for additional stuff. Sure, you could use special batteries but why? Coil: Chargers work by electromagnetic induction. The Tx and Rx coils need to be as close as possible and also in alignment to ensure maximum power transfer. A coil in the battery tray would need to be small (not good) and the base of the Newton would need to be positioned over the middle of the charger (also not good). Voltage: Yes, most of the shelf charger boards are 5V output. There needs to be at least a couple of volts overhead to run the Newton charger circuit. That?s why the wall-wart is 7.5V nominally. There is a possibility of modifying the circuit to output a higher voltage or using a boost DC-DC converter but every addition takes something from the power budget. Power: A lot of the charger boards are around 1W. This would take forever to charge. I would be looking for at least a 15W charger. Even that is low. My advice is to take the 30,000 ft view and use what is already in the Newton. So, leave the battery pack alone and find out the best way to supply ~7.5 V or so to the existing charger circuit. The Rx coil could fit in the case back occupying a more central location. I would use a positional coil charger as opposed to a single coil. That way, placement is less critical. PCBman Sent from my iPad > On Dec 22, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Noah Leon wrote: > > ?Yes, I think the chargers are based on the Qi standard if that is what the iPhone uses. I know Jake Bordens and maybe some others had done some work mapping out how the charging circuits work on the Newton, I wonder if there is enough room inside the case to put a coil directly inside the back? Most of these chargers are 5v circuits, and the Newton?s is 7v, so again I?m not sure if this would work. > > Creating a special battery pack might work ok but I think I would have to perhaps use smaller cells to make room for the chip and the coil, ad it would have to be a smaller coil. Then I don?t know much about how charging circuitry works so I am at a loss of how to direct the electricity to the right place. > > But if I had a little more info it might be a cool project for early next year. If I knew the best way to go about it I certainly would. > > Noah > >> On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:00 PM, newtontalk-request at newtontalk.net wrote: >> >> The board itself is pretty small and the optional receiving coils are flat. You might be able to built this into a standard battery sled. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From m.melcher at robowerk.de Thu Dec 23 03:12:15 2021 From: m.melcher at robowerk.de (Matthias Melcher) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 12:12:15 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging (Grant Hutchinson) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C06D190-20EE-47AE-9FA5-EAC3480A3680@robowerk.de> Those charging circuits are very common now, and you can get them as five-packs starting at 2$US from Alibaba, including charge cicuit. ust google for "qi charge circuit". I don't know the details of the MP charging circuitry, but I do know that there is little to none protection inside the MP, and a wrong charger can easily fry your Newton. So, yes, getting a wireless charger to deliver electricity is very easy, but to make it absolute safe for the Newton is a bit more involved. The same problem exists with USB-C which easily delivers the voltage to run and charge the Newton, but voltage needs to be perfectly regulated and power must be limited by the new circuitry. As for space, There is by todays standards lots of room within the Newton casing. There is always the space for the Modem module, and just as the ROM PCB fits between other boards, one could probably fit even more circuitry into the spaces creatively. - Matthias > On 22. Dec 2021, at 22:35, Noah Leon wrote: > > Yes, I think the chargers are based on the Qi standard if that is what the iPhone uses. I know Jake Bordens and maybe some others had done some work mapping out how the charging circuits work on the Newton, I wonder if there is enough room inside the case to put a coil directly inside the back? Most of these chargers are 5v circuits, and the Newton?s is 7v, so again I?m not sure if this would work. > > Creating a special battery pack might work ok but I think I would have to perhaps use smaller cells to make room for the chip and the coil, ad it would have to be a smaller coil. Then I don?t know much about how charging circuitry works so I am at a loss of how to direct the electricity to the right place. > > But if I had a little more info it might be a cool project for early next year. If I knew the best way to go about it I certainly would. > > Noah > >> On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:00 PM, newtontalk-request at newtontalk.net wrote: >> >> The board itself is pretty small and the optional receiving coils are flat. You might be able to built this into a standard battery sled. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From newton at indigi.co.uk Thu Dec 23 04:56:26 2021 From: newton at indigi.co.uk (Pawel Piotrowski) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 12:56:26 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging (Grant Hutchinson) In-Reply-To: <6C06D190-20EE-47AE-9FA5-EAC3480A3680@robowerk.de> References: <6C06D190-20EE-47AE-9FA5-EAC3480A3680@robowerk.de> Message-ID: I think that will be great topic to discuss during WWNC Online 2021 :D Cheers, Pawel > On 23 Dec 2021, at 11:12, Matthias Melcher wrote: > > > Those charging circuits are very common now, and you can get them as five-packs starting at 2$US from Alibaba, including charge cicuit. ust google for "qi charge circuit". > > I don't know the details of the MP charging circuitry, but I do know that there is little to none protection inside the MP, and a wrong charger can easily fry your Newton. > > So, yes, getting a wireless charger to deliver electricity is very easy, but to make it absolute safe for the Newton is a bit more involved. The same problem exists with USB-C which easily delivers the voltage to run and charge the Newton, but voltage needs to be perfectly regulated and power must be limited by the new circuitry. > > As for space, There is by todays standards lots of room within the Newton casing. There is always the space for the Modem module, and just as the ROM PCB fits between other boards, one could probably fit even more circuitry into the spaces creatively. > > - Matthias > >> On 22. Dec 2021, at 22:35, Noah Leon wrote: >> >> Yes, I think the chargers are based on the Qi standard if that is what the iPhone uses. I know Jake Bordens and maybe some others had done some work mapping out how the charging circuits work on the Newton, I wonder if there is enough room inside the case to put a coil directly inside the back? Most of these chargers are 5v circuits, and the Newton?s is 7v, so again I?m not sure if this would work. >> >> Creating a special battery pack might work ok but I think I would have to perhaps use smaller cells to make room for the chip and the coil, ad it would have to be a smaller coil. Then I don?t know much about how charging circuitry works so I am at a loss of how to direct the electricity to the right place. >> >> But if I had a little more info it might be a cool project for early next year. If I knew the best way to go about it I certainly would. >> >> Noah >> >>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:00 PM, newtontalk-request at newtontalk.net wrote: >>> >>> The board itself is pretty small and the optional receiving coils are flat. You might be able to built this into a standard battery sled. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://newtontalk.net >> http://twitter.com/newtontalk > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From drclu at swbell.net Thu Dec 23 07:18:07 2021 From: drclu at swbell.net (Doctor Clu) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 09:18:07 -0600 Subject: [NTLK] Found my EZ2VGA website In-Reply-To: <60BBFA44-7FA1-4E73-AD74-6EAA4DCC3261@indigi.co.uk> References: <9105CF47-185C-4037-8C24-CC6B58D6DFA7@indigi.co.uk> <60BBFA44-7FA1-4E73-AD74-6EAA4DCC3261@indigi.co.uk> Message-ID: <7F1FFDAA-7073-44FC-B2E6-BEDDF56B4BA9@swbell.net> Hey Newton fans, I had a friend get into the Newton lately and was wondering about the EZ2VGA and EZ2TV. If anyone has one they want to sell, drop me a line at drclu at swbell.net What was fun, I found the website I made about it back on Geocities. (Remember that?) http://web.archive.org/web/20091021223950/http://geocities.com/doctor_clu/EZ2TV.html Wishing you all a Merry Christmas! Doctor Clu Texas, USA From moosefuel at gmail.com Thu Dec 23 13:03:11 2021 From: moosefuel at gmail.com (Noah Leon) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 16:03:11 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging Message-ID: <969BA0B0-05F4-4304-9C2E-CB647847B998@gmail.com> So if I understand correctly, what I really need for wireless charging is a series of devices: Charging coil (large and inside the newt?s back)??->Charging circuit??->Step-up converter (5v to 7.5)??>Some sort of regulator to avoid frying the Newt (is this necessary if the step-up circuit more or less does it?) Where do I attach the apparatus to the board? Same place as the barrel connector perhaps? Noah From dxh at woh.rr.com Thu Dec 23 13:53:19 2021 From: dxh at woh.rr.com (DXH) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 16:53:19 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging In-Reply-To: <969BA0B0-05F4-4304-9C2E-CB647847B998@gmail.com> References: <969BA0B0-05F4-4304-9C2E-CB647847B998@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00832089-5D89-47FD-A50E-FF301C431E94@woh.rr.com> It depends on how you implement it. You could do away with the boost circuit if you adjust some components on the charger to give a higher output. Certainly, connecting to the barrel jack with the correct voltage will get a result as it would be no different than connecting the power supply. Note that physically plugging the PSU in disconnects the internal supply so you would need to be careful to make sure one or the other is connected and not trying to supply the other. A neater design would be a board that plugs in to the internal slot, includes Bluetooth and possibly other stuff too? I may know a guy that could be looking at that? ;) PCBman Sent from my iPad > On Dec 23, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Noah Leon wrote: > > ?So if I understand correctly, what I really need for wireless charging is a series of devices: > > Charging coil (large and inside the newt?s back)??->Charging circuit??->Step-up converter (5v to 7.5)??>Some sort of regulator to avoid frying the Newt (is this necessary if the step-up circuit more or less does it?) > > Where do I attach the apparatus to the board? Same place as the barrel connector perhaps? > > Noah > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From grant at splorp.com Thu Dec 23 15:12:02 2021 From: grant at splorp.com (Grant Hutchinson) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 16:12:02 -0700 Subject: [NTLK] Found my EZ2VGA website In-Reply-To: <7F1FFDAA-7073-44FC-B2E6-BEDDF56B4BA9@swbell.net> References: <9105CF47-185C-4037-8C24-CC6B58D6DFA7@indigi.co.uk> <60BBFA44-7FA1-4E73-AD74-6EAA4DCC3261@indigi.co.uk> <7F1FFDAA-7073-44FC-B2E6-BEDDF56B4BA9@swbell.net> Message-ID: <347D5FC6-857D-4707-8F84-C9786AA807CD@splorp.com> > On Dec 23, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Doctor Clu wrote: > > What was fun, I found the website I made about it back on Geocities. (Remember that?) > > Thanks for digging up your old page ... I just added it to the EZ2TV and EZ2VGA entries of the Newton Glossary. https://newtonglossary.com/terms/ez2tv https://newtonglossary.com/terms/ez2vga g. From robmoody at fundamental-learning.com Thu Dec 23 15:44:43 2021 From: robmoody at fundamental-learning.com (Rob Moody) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:44:43 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Charging In-Reply-To: <00832089-5D89-47FD-A50E-FF301C431E94@woh.rr.com> References: <00832089-5D89-47FD-A50E-FF301C431E94@woh.rr.com> Message-ID: Well, given the experience and know how around Newts and all things circuitry (and technical stuff like that) behind him?if anyone has a good shot at doing it?it?s PCBman! Sent from my iPhone > On 23 Dec 2021, at 21:54, DXH wrote: > > ?It depends on how you implement it. > You could do away with the boost circuit if you adjust some components on the charger to give a higher output. > Certainly, connecting to the barrel jack with the correct voltage will get a result as it would be no different than connecting the power supply. Note that physically plugging the PSU in disconnects the internal supply so you would need to be careful to make sure one or the other is connected and not trying to supply the other. > > A neater design would be a board that plugs in to the internal slot, includes Bluetooth and possibly other stuff too? > > I may know a guy that could be looking at that? ;) > > PCBman > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 23, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Noah Leon wrote: >> >> ?So if I understand correctly, what I really need for wireless charging is a series of devices: >> >> Charging coil (large and inside the newt?s back)??->Charging circuit??->Step-up converter (5v to 7.5)??>Some sort of regulator to avoid frying the Newt (is this necessary if the step-up circuit more or less does it?) >> >> Where do I attach the apparatus to the board? Same place as the barrel connector perhaps? >> >> Noah >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://newtontalk.net >> http://twitter.com/newtontalk > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From lwb at mac.com Thu Dec 23 17:16:15 2021 From: lwb at mac.com (L.W. Brown) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:16:15 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] Found my EZ2VGA website In-Reply-To: <7F1FFDAA-7073-44FC-B2E6-BEDDF56B4BA9@swbell.net> References: <9105CF47-185C-4037-8C24-CC6B58D6DFA7@indigi.co.uk> <60BBFA44-7FA1-4E73-AD74-6EAA4DCC3261@indigi.co.uk> <7F1FFDAA-7073-44FC-B2E6-BEDDF56B4BA9@swbell.net> Message-ID: <8FB9B7CD-7386-4C15-BF66-3208131FEE74@mac.com> You could recreate that on NeoCities, the successor-in-spirit? > On Dec 23, 2021, at 7:18 AM, Doctor Clu wrote: > > I found the website I made about it back on Geocities. (Remember that?) From newton at indigi.co.uk Sun Dec 26 11:46:44 2021 From: newton at indigi.co.uk (Pawel Piotrowski) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 19:46:44 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] Worldwide Newton Conference Online 2021 - UPDATE #6 Message-ID: Hi Newtonians! Only 2 days left before our WWNC online 2021! I?m very excited! :) Please check the schedule on the website (wwnc.online ). You can also download the schedule for your Newton too :) This year will be a few special guests. I hope we all will have a good time there :) Here I have quick poll for you, to get idea how many people will be there with us: https://poll-maker.com/poll4084010xbB4A4Eaf-128 Please vote once :) Best regards, Pawel Piotrowski Worldwide Newton Conference Online 2021: wwnc.online Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk NPDS Server: http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079 (powered by Newton 2100) NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 (powered by Raspberry Pi) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/applenewtonfan/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/AppleNewtonFan/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AppleNewtonFan/ From laurenbodyfelt at yahoo.com Mon Dec 27 15:32:52 2021 From: laurenbodyfelt at yahoo.com (Lauren) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 15:32:52 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] I sell a greater part of my Newton collection soon In-Reply-To: <9105CF47-185C-4037-8C24-CC6B58D6DFA7@indigi.co.uk> References: <9105CF47-185C-4037-8C24-CC6B58D6DFA7@indigi.co.uk> Message-ID: <81D85AA5-1131-4019-B4F7-D0EE5273B9FD@yahoo.com> Sorry to hear this, Pawel?I hope things get better for you, and if worse comes to worse, I do hope you can find good homes for your Newtons where they?ll be properly cared for. Remember that we want to help you, as you?re an INCREDIBLY valuable (and awesome!) part of the Newton community with your vast knowledge, and a cool person to have around! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:53 AM, Pawel Piotrowski wrote: > > ?Hi Newtonians, > > Due to the life situation, I decided to sell a greater part of my Newton collection. Over 60 units (various models + MOTOROLA + SHARP) and a very large number of accessories (memory cards, network cards, WiFi cards, BT cards, cables, adaptors, docks for 120/130 units, a lot of literature, ads, leaflets and many many minor accessories). Due to the number of these items, I would like to find a buyer who would like to buy everything at a time. I do not have time to exhibit individual items for auctions, etc. I need some time to prepare the list of items for sale, but I would like to signal that there will be a list soon. > > If you are interested please do not hesitate to contact me via email. I will try to respond to every question. > > > > Best regards, > Pawel Piotrowski > > Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk > > NPDS Server: http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079 (powered by Newton 2100) > NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 (powered by Raspberry Pi) > > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/applenewtonfan/ > Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/AppleNewtonFan/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/AppleNewtonFan/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From newton at indigi.co.uk Tue Dec 28 12:37:40 2021 From: newton at indigi.co.uk (Pawel Piotrowski) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 20:37:40 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) Message-ID: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> Hi Guys, I want to start the discussion about David?s presentation. From me I wish to have module with: - USB connector (with FTDI chip - no drivers anymore) - LAN card - Wifi card - serial port - specialised multi-I/O connector (to get all signals externally - to build some external devices for Newton) I have a few more ideas, but I don?t want to spam here xD Best regards, Pawel Piotrowski Worldwide Apple Newton Users Map: http://user-map.applenewton.co.uk NPDS Server: http://newton1.applenewton.co.uk:8079 (powered by Newton 2100) NPDS Tracker Server: http://tracker.applenewton.co.uk:3680 (powered by Raspberry Pi) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/applenewtonfan/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/AppleNewtonFan/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AppleNewtonFan/ From alan.grassia at gmail.com Tue Dec 28 12:42:47 2021 From: alan.grassia at gmail.com (Alan Grassia) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 15:42:47 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> References: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> Message-ID: <6E9C34F9-8CF5-4BCF-AD70-971B26C701B9@gmail.com> Hello Pawel and Newton Friends, I?m sorry I missed David?s talk and hope to see it soon on the we can.online website soon, but your suggestions sound awesome! Yes please and thank you! Cheers, Alan ------------------------------- OMP, MP2000, MP2100, eMate 300 Website: http://blog.smartphonefanatics.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanmgrassia LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alangrassia Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max > On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Pawel Piotrowski wrote: > > From me I wish to have module with: > > - USB connector (with FTDI chip - no drivers anymore) > - LAN card > - Wifi card > - serial port > - specialised multi-I/O connector (to get all signals externally - to build some external devices for Newton) > > Best regards, > Pawel Piotrowski From pen at baroncompsys.com Wed Dec 29 00:56:03 2021 From: pen at baroncompsys.com (Paul Nuernberger) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:56:03 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> References: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> Message-ID: Given the limited space available inside, and in order of importance: 1) WiFi 2) USB-C (with perhaps the capability of charging/powering device if possible?) 3) Bluetooth An Ethernet port would be great but I do not see enough real estate to realistically get the physical interface in place. I'd also really like to see development using the connector that Mathias found of a USB-A (w/ chip embedded) or mini DIN serial connection cable. That would help many people here. Paul Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone Get Outlook for Android Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) Hi Guys, I want to start the discussion about David?s presentation. From sylvain at pilet.net Wed Dec 29 01:44:28 2021 From: sylvain at pilet.net (Sylvain Pilet) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 10:44:28 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: References: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> Message-ID: <4552541D-F10C-41E7-8713-355EC816E028@pilet.net> What would be ideal is an offset of the interconnect port on a "contact" connector with also connectors to power the Newton. This is similar to the discussion about contactless charging, but here, by simply touching the Newton on a hypothetical dock that we could design together. A bit like on the Watson (Schlumberger's Newton) where there is already this solution, allowing to have several serial ports as well as the power supply deported. I can make pictures of the additional internal card of the Watsons which is coupled to a specific version of PCMCIA card (which recovers the different communication channels)... Sylvain Pilet http://message-pad.net http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 [NPDS Tracker] From ispinn at gmail.com Wed Dec 29 07:51:20 2021 From: ispinn at gmail.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:51:20 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] [OT] my electronics stash Message-ID: How do you keep all of your collections of electronics accounted for and organized? I find the "out of sight, out of mind" phenomenon creeping in a) trains me to forget and b) helps me to forget about things I once used to use heavily. YMMV, but I kind of doubt that! ;-) Doug From m.melcher at robowerk.de Wed Dec 29 08:14:59 2021 From: m.melcher at robowerk.de (Matthias Melcher) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:14:59 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] [OT] my electronics stash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On 29. Dec 2021, at 16:51, Doug wrote: > > How do you keep all of your collections of electronics accounted for and > organized? I have all my collections, tool, machines, projects etc. in Euro Boxes. Euro Boxes are fantastic because they are based on the Euro Palette and come in evend divisions of the the 1200mm x 800mm. They fit nicely into shelves, come at many heights, are stackable, and come with tons of accesoires, like handles, lids, wheels, etc. . So every project gets a matching size Eurobox. Every collection gets a shelf column, and everything is labeled in the front. And if I need to move, it will fit onto a standard palette, maximising space utilisation and being compatible with trucking and loading. Not sure if there are similar systems available outside of Europe. For example: https://www.schaefer-shop.ch/lager-betrieb/lagerkaesten-lagerbehaelter/kaesten-euro-mass From microssg at comcast.net Wed Dec 29 08:24:20 2021 From: microssg at comcast.net (Paul Curtis) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:24:20 -0700 Subject: [NTLK] [OT] my electronics stash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52EE1C7B-95E1-4116-9903-5288145A2204@comcast.net> Kind of: Milwaukee Pack Out System https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Storage-Solutions/PACKOUT Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Matthias Melcher wrote: > > ? > >> On 29. Dec 2021, at 16:51, Doug wrote: >> >> How do you keep all of your collections of electronics accounted for and >> organized? > > I have all my collections, tool, machines, projects etc. in Euro Boxes. Euro Boxes are fantastic because they are based on the Euro Palette and come in evend divisions of the the 1200mm x 800mm. > > They fit nicely into shelves, come at many heights, are stackable, and come with tons of accesoires, like handles, lids, wheels, etc. . > > So every project gets a matching size Eurobox. Every collection gets a shelf column, and everything is labeled in the front. And if I need to move, it will fit onto a standard palette, maximising space utilisation and being compatible with trucking and loading. > > Not sure if there are similar systems available outside of Europe. > > For example: > https://www.schaefer-shop.ch/lager-betrieb/lagerkaesten-lagerbehaelter/kaesten-euro-mass > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From m.melcher at robowerk.de Wed Dec 29 08:36:51 2021 From: m.melcher at robowerk.de (Matthias Melcher) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:36:51 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <4552541D-F10C-41E7-8713-355EC816E028@pilet.net> References: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> <4552541D-F10C-41E7-8713-355EC816E028@pilet.net> Message-ID: Hi PCBMan and friends, for a while I was trying to build this form modules, but gave up because my electronics knowledge is too little, especially in building a correct power supply and not destroying original MessagePads. My functionality was: - USB-C connector * power over USB (DC/DC stebdown to 7.2V with power limiter) * charging over USB (USB-C can provide much more than 5V) * data over USB-C to serial port - ESP32 wifi/BT module * connects over the Modem port and pretends to be an actual modem which makes it usable without preadding any software * user can choose to connects BT to sound(?), serial, or keyboard port * ESP connects to a MicroSD Card, accessible through the rear opening can be used to access a local copy of Unna can be used to update software in this module - Power control for this module Alternatively, there is a ESP32 module that has a builtin USB connection, but no BT. Central chip to connect everything was an Altera MAX 3000 (EPM3032). This chip is a programmable logic chip that also takes care of 3.2V vs. 5V signalling. It can be reprogrammed by the ESP, so the module can freely reconfigure itself as we upgrade software. https://www.altera.com/content/dam/altera-www/global/en_US/pdfs/literature/ds/m3000a.pdf I'll be happy to provide more details as needed. I would also program the ESP to behave like a modem to connect to Wifi networks or the internal SDCard. - Matthias From birddog at me.com Wed Dec 29 08:38:01 2021 From: birddog at me.com (Fritz Toch) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:38:01 -0000 Subject: [NTLK] [OT] my electronics stash Message-ID: <8174ec54-9d17-4811-9a9a-dbe4c4444441@me.com> These Euroboxes look cool. Anyone know of a North American/Canadian vendor?On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Matthias Melcher wrote:On 29. Dec 2021, at 16:51, Doug wrote:How do you keep all of your collections of electronics accounted for andorganized?I have all my collections, tool, machines, projects etc. in Euro Boxes. Euro Boxes are fantastic because they are based on the Euro Palette and come in evend divisions of the the 1200mm x 800mm. They fit nicely into shelves, come at many heights, are stackable, and come with tons of accesoires, like handles, lids, wheels, etc. .So every project gets a matching size Eurobox. Every collection gets a shelf column, and everything is labeled in the front. And if I need to move, it will fit onto a standard palette, maximising space utilisation and being compatible with trucking and loading.Not sure if there are similar systems available outside of Europe.For example:https://www.schaefer-shop.ch/lager-betrieb/lagerkaesten-lagerbehaelter/kaesten-euro-mass----------------------------------------------------------------------http://newtontalk.nethttp://twitter.com/newtontalk From newton at indigi.co.uk Fri Dec 31 02:50:42 2021 From: newton at indigi.co.uk (Pawel Piotrowski) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 10:50:42 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: References: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> <4552541D-F10C-41E7-8713-355EC816E028@pilet.net> Message-ID: Hi Matthias, > My functionality was: > - USB-C connector > * power over USB (DC/DC stebdown to 7.2V with power limiter) > * charging over USB (USB-C can provide much more than 5V) > * data over USB-C to serial port > - ESP32 wifi/BT module > * connects over the Modem port and pretends to be an actual modem > which makes it usable without preadding any software > * user can choose to connects BT to sound(?), serial, or keyboard port I think if you, Guys (Matthias and PCBman), could make USB-C + WiFi (acting as serial port - so no additional software would be need to use it with blank Newton) that would be awesome! And I think that would be a huge improvement for our lives! No problem with connecting Newton with computers any more? Dream! > * ESP connects to a MicroSD Card, accessible through the rear opening > can be used to access a local copy of Unna > can be used to update software in this module Matthias, that option for MicroSD card: Do you think that would work as ATA driver - to give us option to emulate PCMCIA memory card? How we can support you with this project? Cheers, Pawel From m.melcher at robowerk.de Fri Dec 31 05:39:33 2021 From: m.melcher at robowerk.de (Matthias Melcher) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 14:39:33 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: References: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> <4552541D-F10C-41E7-8713-355EC816E028@pilet.net> Message-ID: <46D878B9-18BC-41C0-96F7-8DB5630E2907@robowerk.de> > On 31. Dec 2021, at 11:50, Pawel Piotrowski wrote: > >> * ESP connects to a MicroSD Card, accessible through the rear opening >> can be used to access a local copy of Unna >> can be used to update software in this module > > > Matthias, that option for MicroSD card: Do you think that would work as ATA driver - to give us option to emulate PCMCIA memory card? All the ideas above are for the internal modem connector. It has three serial busses available (serial data, modem, keyboard). ATA is a different protocol that only works over PCMCIA on Newtons. My MicroSD would only be visible to the ESP32. The ESP pretends to be a modem. NewtonOS already has everything in ROM to install packages over a modem line. So we can install NIE, the Newton Internet Enabler, into an unmodified MessagePd. With NIE installed, Newton can reach the internet using the same modem connection. The ESP has its own microcontroller and can appear to the Newton as a docking connection, as a web server, presenting the content of the MicroSD, or as a connection to the world via Wifi. Since this is a modem connection, you would simply "dial" different numbers to tell the ESP to behave differently. NewtonOS can dial any number, including text, so dialing "411" might connect "Dock" to a PC that provide NIE and a web browser. Dialing "1:MySSID:myPassword" might connect you to a Wifi host, and dialing "711" connects you to the local copy of "unna" and maybe other archives that the user can store on the MicroSD. - Matthias PS: in the USB (but no BT) version of the ESP, it can also provide a direct connection to the original serial port, which would be very much needed to run Hammer and other debugging tools. From newton at indigi.co.uk Fri Dec 31 07:18:54 2021 From: newton at indigi.co.uk (Pawel Piotrowski) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:18:54 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <46D878B9-18BC-41C0-96F7-8DB5630E2907@robowerk.de> References: <072326FC-8434-4E1A-A3BE-773B537BAC62@indigi.co.uk> <4552541D-F10C-41E7-8713-355EC816E028@pilet.net> <46D878B9-18BC-41C0-96F7-8DB5630E2907@robowerk.de> Message-ID: <18B1DD7D-A2B3-4D5C-B631-2133412CCA6B@indigi.co.uk> > On 31 Dec 2021, at 13:39, Matthias Melcher wrote: > > Since this is a modem connection, you would simply "dial" different numbers to tell the ESP to behave differently. NewtonOS can dial any number, including text, so dialing "411" might connect "Dock" to a PC that provide NIE and a web browser. Dialing "1:MySSID:myPassword" might connect you to a Wifi host, and dialing "711" connects you to the local copy of "unna" and maybe other archives that the user can store on the MicroSD. So, the ESP32 and USB-C modules could solve everything we need to make our live easier! Wow! Matthias, Is that mean that we could prepare ?clean?n'simple? HTML version of UNNA repositories to upload on this ESP32-web-server, to have direct access via (for example) NewtScape? Cheers, Pawel From sylvain at pilet.net Fri Dec 31 08:53:21 2021 From: sylvain at pilet.net (Sylvain Pilet) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:53:21 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <18B1DD7D-A2B3-4D5C-B631-2133412CCA6B@indigi.co.uk> References: <18B1DD7D-A2B3-4D5C-B631-2133412CCA6B@indigi.co.uk> Message-ID: <487E9EEE-0672-4004-B982-4036B109D03C@pilet.net> > Matthias, Is that mean that we could prepare ?clean?n'simple? HTML version of UNNA repositories to upload on this ESP32-web-server, to have direct access via (for example) NewtScape? > Cheers, > Pawel It is even easier to allow browsing in the tree structure on the web server of a folder containing the files (and folders) archived on UNNA.org... S. Pilet http://message-pad.net From alan.grassia at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 10:04:23 2021 From: alan.grassia at gmail.com (Alan Grassia) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:04:23 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <487E9EEE-0672-4004-B982-4036B109D03C@pilet.net> References: <487E9EEE-0672-4004-B982-4036B109D03C@pilet.net> Message-ID: <838021C3-9B5D-4722-AC22-5B4784ABFB14@gmail.com> Hello Newton Friends, While I don?t follow everything being discussed here, this really sounds like an amazing project. I?d be willing to make a contribution for parts, tools, and the developer?s time if that would help make any of this a reality. Cheers, Alan Grassia ------------------------------- OMP, MP2000, MP2100, eMate 300 Website: http://blog.smartphonefanatics.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/alanmgrassia LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alangrassia Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max > On Dec 31, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Sylvain Pilet wrote: > > ? >> Matthias, Is that mean that we could prepare ?clean?n'simple? HTML version of UNNA repositories to upload on this ESP32-web-server, to have direct access via (for example) NewtScape? >> Cheers, >> Pawel > > It is even easier to allow browsing in the tree structure on the web server of a folder containing the files (and folders) archived on UNNA.org... > > S. Pilet > http://message-pad.net > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://newtontalk.net > http://twitter.com/newtontalk From pen at baroncompsys.com Fri Dec 31 12:43:23 2021 From: pen at baroncompsys.com (Paul Nuernberger) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 20:43:23 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <487E9EEE-0672-4004-B982-4036B109D03C@pilet.net> References: <18B1DD7D-A2B3-4D5C-B631-2133412CCA6B@indigi.co.uk> <487E9EEE-0672-4004-B982-4036B109D03C@pilet.net> Message-ID: I agree, but it would be far simpler to focus on providing those things that either get the Newton up and running from a cold start, or provide direct usability improvements; and then only those things that we have already received permission to use freely to avoid future issues. Paul Sylvain Pilet Sent: It is even easier to allow browsing in the tree structure on the web server of a folder containing the files (and folders) archived on UNNA.org... From sylvain at pilet.net Fri Dec 31 16:46:22 2021 From: sylvain at pilet.net (Sylvain Pilet) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 01:46:22 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] What we want on Internal Newton Extension Module by PCBMan :) In-Reply-To: <838021C3-9B5D-4722-AC22-5B4784ABFB14@gmail.com> References: <487E9EEE-0672-4004-B982-4036B109D03C@pilet.net> <838021C3-9B5D-4722-AC22-5B4784ABFB14@gmail.com> Message-ID: In addition to what Pawel says, a few years ago (already!) since everything on UNNA is authorized, as far as I know there is no program that doesn't respect the rights, either the Apps are free, or they are in demo or limited version, I had thought about transforming the downloadable content of UNNA into a kind of Apps gallery (the equivalent of a PkgStore or a NewtStore like the Apple App Store and the Google PlayStore) with navigation by themes and icons of the Apps pkg. My project was hesitating on whether to use a simple browser (NewtScape or other) or to write a dedicated App that could remember already loaded/tried/installed/active Apps... I didn't talk about it at the time, it was part of the many Newton projects I imagine without finding the time and without really having all the skills (in programming) to complete it. But I'm getting away from the subject of this thread, which is more about the hardware part of the Newton, with the possibility of "new" communication ports? >>> Matthias, Is that mean that we could prepare ?clean?n'simple? HTML version of UNNA repositories to upload on this ESP32-web-server, to have direct access via (for example) NewtScape? >>> Cheers, >>> Pawel >> >> It is even easier to allow browsing in the tree structure on the web server of a folder containing the files (and folders) archived on UNNA.org... Sylvain Pilet http://message-pad.net http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 [NPDS Tracker] From sylvain at pilet.net Fri Dec 31 16:54:44 2021 From: sylvain at pilet.net (Sylvain Pilet) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 01:54:44 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] Newt Year Message-ID: Usually I wish a happy new year to all, but for this new year 2022, I prefer to wish you all a less bad year than the two that just passed, it would be already good! KeepTheGreen! S. Pilet From sylvain at pilet.net Fri Dec 31 18:38:17 2021 From: sylvain at pilet.net (Sylvain Pilet) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 03:38:17 +0100 Subject: [NTLK] On the traces of [Glen Raphael] the author of [NewtPaint] Message-ID: <0EE74590-A8E2-491A-A5F9-D52AB75CEA06@pilet.net> In the discussions on Newtontalk and during the wwnc conferences online we talked about finding the trace of Glen Raphael the author of NewtPaint (distributed by LandWare) From threads to threads we can find his trace as a singer and that his last concert would date back to July 2015 in Cambridge. Then after this date difficult to find anything from him. On Wired's Newton fan gallery from 2005 it is indicated that the photo is from Adam Tow (Adam you certainly knew him, since he created the SNUG group in 1994 and was its president until 1996...) - - - [FR] Sur la trace de Glen Raphael l'auteur de NewtPaint? Dans les discussions sur Newtontalk et pendant les conf?rences wwnc nous parlions de retrouver la trace de Glen Raphael l'auteur de NewtPaint (distribu? par LandWare) De fils en aiguilles on peut retrouver sa trace en tant que chanteur et que son dernier concert remonterait ? juillet 2015 ? Cambridge. Puis apr?s cette date difficile de trouver quelque chose provenant de lui. Sur la galerie des fans de Newton de Wired de 2005 il est indiqu? que la photo de Glen est d'Adam Tow (Adam tu l'as certainement connu, puisqu'il a cr?e le groupe SNUG en 1994 et en ?tait pr?sident jusqu'? 1996?) - - - Sources: - ReverbNation https://www.reverbnation.com/glenraphael - Old personal page https://web.archive.org/web/20120513084924/http://www.impel.com/personal/homepage/ - Impel Industries (former company) https://web.archive.org/web/20130816033229/http://impel.com/ - SMUG NewsLetter archive http://www.pa-smug.org/_newsletters/newsletter950601.pdf - WIRED Archive https://web.archive.org/web/20050222003133/http://www.wired.com/news/images/0,2334,64834-14295,00.html - ZDNet article archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060928092837/http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-500787.html Sylvain Pilet http://message-pad.net http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 [NPDS Tracker] From lwb at mac.com Fri Dec 31 21:49:21 2021 From: lwb at mac.com (L.W. Brown) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:49:21 -0800 Subject: [NTLK] Newt Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well said, my friend? and the same to you all!! > On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Sylvain Pilet wrote: > > Usually I wish a happy new year to all, > but for this new year 2022, > I prefer to wish you all a less bad year > than the two that just passed, > it would be already good! > > KeepTheGreen! > > S. Pilet