[NTLK] Mac OS 8.5 vs. 9.2 for Newton?
newtonphoenix at mindspring.com
Mon Oct 20 04:53:40 EDT 2014
I recall reading somewhere that along with the floppy drive, OS X abandoned IrDA. I don't know where I read it, but I had a Beige G3 Tower as my go-to machine at the time, and was quite upset that I would lose the use of my floppy drive with the upgrade.
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Bill Moser <wmoser2 at netzero.net> wrote:
>>If my memory serves me correctly, IRDA between OS 8 or OS 9 and Newton did
>not work for packages, etc. They both speak IRDA, but the underlying
>transports were never implemented.
>I can speak to this. In 1997 I tried for months with some success to get
>IrDA between an iMac rev. B and a Newton 2100 to work. The result is here:
>An Apple engineer wrote me in '97/'98 to confirm: The Newton 2100 is fully
>IrDA compliant. The hardware, the IRLap/IrLMP base of the IrDA protocol
>stack are fully implemented. The only thing keeping this unit from full
>functionality is the software, that is TinyTP, Obex, IrCOMM, and so on. I
>recall Smart Dog software licensed an implementation of Obex and ported it
>to the Newton. He seems to have abandoned the product these days.
>On the Mac side, the IR software for OS 8 and 9 will not work out of the
>box. Kieran Miller and I got two terminal emulators (one on each device) to
>send files back and forth. Miller was fond of Black Knight for Mac, I liked
>SitComm. Appleworks and Easter Eggs worked well also. I found that when I
>installed the IrDA tools from the Palm MacPac 2 software, suddenly the Mac
>terminal emulators became IrDA friendly.
>By the way, I have no idea if OS X supports any of this. Windows IrDA was
>something I never played with, but IrCOMM was in Windows 98 (or NT, I
>forget) and it is a higher level protocol like Obex. Not built in to the
>Newton ROM. If an IrDA protocol stack were fully implemented in NOS 2.1, it
>would work as well as any Windows CE or Palm device.
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